tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7834826019588534175.post3865065587068184495..comments2023-09-20T06:10:29.485-04:00Comments on The Marine Installer's Rant: Yacht certified? Whats that mean?Bill Bishop - Parmainhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11554223870035485145noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7834826019588534175.post-55456070132311073272018-07-24T23:14:11.642-04:002018-07-24T23:14:11.642-04:00This has less to do with a decline in USA "cu...This has less to do with a decline in USA "cultural attack" and more of an increase in intelligence since then. Having that many kids on a boat without a life jacket epitomizes the stupidity of your day.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7834826019588534175.post-82795809480991593192018-04-28T04:37:54.844-04:002018-04-28T04:37:54.844-04:00My father took 20 of my 7th grade class out on a w...My father took 20 of my 7th grade class out on a whale watching field trip 3 miles out from shore in Santa Monica bay. My mother,little brother and a nun came also so 24 total. maybe 3000 lbs. We had six lifejackets (Racing rules requirement)and only three of the girls wore them.Our 36' foot cat was maybe 2/3 the displacement of piture above. No stability issue at all in 2-3 ft waves and everyone could actually have swam to shoe hanging onto our rowboat anyways. Different era 40 years ago(private school also).They were still debating mandatory helmets for motorcycles back then. First major decline in USA cultural attack. I don't ask the Coast Guard the proper way to tie my shoes, wipe my arse, nor design and operate my private yachts. They should get back to life saving and rescue attempts, also smuggler interdiction, and stop adding regulation to write a bunch of tickets over. <br /> Why post a picture of a catamaran in the headline? That boat would not capsize with 50 people aboard in calm water shown. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16438352424199716984noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7834826019588534175.post-89590468464525917362017-05-28T14:18:05.116-04:002017-05-28T14:18:05.116-04:00high school ....believe after grade 5 ! high school ....believe after grade 5 ! Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18077541723924655546noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7834826019588534175.post-47029674512488115612017-03-31T21:12:40.850-04:002017-03-31T21:12:40.850-04:00I doubt seriously the guy who put 27 people on his...I doubt seriously the guy who put 27 people on his 34 foot boat would of read any manuals. I do not think the Government or the Boat manufacture are to blame. A total lack of common sense Among 27 people are to blame. Biloxi Point Oyster Co.https://www.blogger.com/profile/05005341865122795833noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7834826019588534175.post-56809915075751557182016-04-23T11:48:05.634-04:002016-04-23T11:48:05.634-04:00The way I see it is one can't legislate stupid...The way I see it is one can't legislate stupid. All the government rules in the world won't keep certain people from doing things that most of us wouldn't even dream of. Was alcohol a part of the equation here?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7834826019588534175.post-45985887221350478742016-01-22T15:11:39.094-05:002016-01-22T15:11:39.094-05:00Aren't there extensive CFR stability requireme...Aren't there extensive CFR stability requirements, especially for an upper deck? The last I dealt with commercial construction if you changed a passenger vessel weight by more than %5 it required a new stability report. Move to recreational and all of a sudden the USCG doesn't feel those same standards apply. How does that make sense? I know ABYC is currently working on evolving the standards for capacity & upper decks but not sure what exactly that will mean until we see the standard.Paul Youngnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7834826019588534175.post-89541890444375804652012-07-17T00:30:32.914-04:002012-07-17T00:30:32.914-04:00If anything, it seems the USCG should have somethi...If anything, it seems the USCG should have something on this. This overloading incident sounds like "lack proper vessel knowledge and operating skills" which ABYC and NMMA don't really deal with.<br /><br />Perhaps the "hole" is in the secondary education system. Anyone who completes high school physics should think twice about loading up a 34 foot boat with 27 people.builderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06759116925176542804noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7834826019588534175.post-13869408842458060802012-07-16T13:40:30.130-04:002012-07-16T13:40:30.130-04:00Sam, to the best of my knowledge there was no capa...Sam, to the best of my knowledge there was no capacity plate for the 1984 Silverton, or information in the owners manual either. In later years, the redesigned 34' Silverton version had a recommendation of not more than 15 persons, but no reference to bridge loading. Searay, Tiara, and a few others do provide capacity plates, and or information regarding capacity loading in the owners manual. I didn't want to analyse the reason for the accident, but instead used it as a focal point to talk about the lack of information about vessel capacity/stability that is available to most owners. You're right about bridge loading, and I talked a bit before about high center of gravity implications on boats, and moment loading. I just used simple calculations to illustrate the point, and did not included the considerable impact inertia can have. Thanks, Bill <br /><br />http://themarineinstallersrant.blogspot.com/2011/08/steps-and-second-steering-stations-on.htmlBill Bishop - Parmainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11554223870035485145noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7834826019588534175.post-1167932948194374212012-07-16T11:17:45.450-04:002012-07-16T11:17:45.450-04:00Has anyone determined if there was a capacity labe...Has anyone determined if there was a capacity label for the flybridge and if it was exceeded? A much smaller movable load when extended away from the center of gravity will easily roll a vessel, especially if it becomes laterally destabilized (vessel abruptly changes direction, takes a wave abeam, etc.) Our Sea Ray 370 AC has a label that clearly states no more the 850 lbs total (people, gear, etc.) are to be on the flybridge when the vessel is underway.Skipper Samhttp://www.northcoastboating.comnoreply@blogger.com